MANIFESTING A SPECIFIC PERSON (REAL) Your Q's, We Answer 💪 | COLLAB Pt 2: Athena Raven

hi my name is Joseph Alai hi and I'm Athena Raven welcome to my channel and this is a collaboration part two make sure you check out the previous part of the collaboration video and it's essentially a Q&A based upon our subscribers questions ever since we have went public with our relationship as uh manifestation coaches we've um been getting a lot of questions a lot of questions just about the the way manifesting works as it relates to specific people most people don't have the inner workings available to them as to what another person thinks how another person acts what's going on behind the scenes of a bridge of incidents when it's involving in other people in fact most people when they're manifesting someone else they will never tell that other person that they're manifesting them but in this case like I said because of our unique position we are capable of doing that but from your questions we have we want to provide you some insight into the way that you know manifesting has uh with each other has impacted Our Lives the one of the first questions that we've been asked and I think this is a brilliant question actually it was kind of a last minute thing we weren't we we we forgot about this until just a minute before Athena remembered but it's on um why didn't as as people who are man manifesting experts through your this is the way the the question was phrased why did we choose to manifest new people meaning why did I manifest her and she manifest me as opposed to fixing our prior relationships and I think this is an excellent question and I think for both Athena and myself we can I can speak for both of us initially in saying that um it has been a PL meure manifesting each other as opposed to what can normally take place when we're manifesting a specific person right um Athena and I both have manifested specific people I've manifested multiple people I've gone through the the harsh conditions and and trials by fire of manifesting a specific person I think for most people that come to my Channel or Athena's Channel and I say most not all but they are in the process of or in some at some point in their life have manifested a specific person the I know for me and my earliest experiences were really really harsh on the heart right when we're talking about matters of the heart and we're talking about manifesting there sometimes is nothing more complex or so it can seem or something that can seem there's nothing that seems more difficult so to speak at times than manifesting a specific person for many reasons we're talking about you have to control your mind to a degree that you're not impacted as as much that you can detach from the situation so you're not obsessed we're talking about matters of the heart we're talking about love there's nothing stronger than that emotion of love and so attachment in of itself can be something if when we're talking about imagining and we have to move on and live in the state as if we already have it well what do you do when you're interacting with that individual how do you carry on your day-to-day how are you not so um how can you move past that idea or the mindset of being so um debilitated by heartache that you can maintain this image in your mind that you're married to a specific person or what happens when you bring them back into your life and they're acting in a behavior in a way where the behaviors are deplorable or they're not treating you the way that you deserve to be treated there's so many different ways and I know and and I'll just give you I'll cut to the chase for me I've gone through all that I've manifested successfully specific people it's not for me today having done this for years now the I said it has been a pleasure to manifest Athena that is not the case with any of the situations that I was in with a specific person and for me the majority of them has been after a breakup it's just not nice really how much simpler does it get than writing down a list entitled wife and listing down 70 80 you don't even have to do this by the way to do that many 70 80 different criteria and just put it down and then poof out of thin air you get some beautiful chick knocking on your door telling you she wants to freaking be with you wants to marry you what that's ridiculous listen but but for real right for real how much easier can it get right so I'm not going to get too deep into the nuances we can make a whole video on the pros and cons and trial and errors between manifesting specific people and general people but what I can say to you is this if you gave me the opportunity right now to take say there was some uh fantasy fictitious girl of my dreams that was not her which is impossible because she is the girl of my dreams I've literally wrote it out on a piece of paper but say it wasn't her and say her and I this fictitious person and I dated and things went South and now I was given a chance okay do I want to Manifest this person back or do I want to manifest a new perfect person what would I choose 100% of the time every single time I would go a new perfect person because of the ease the pleasure the Simplicity and just all of that what do you think yeah I think I mean I have been on the journey a long time so when I you know just over 20 years ago then there was a one of my very first major manifestations was my very first love and then from there I think I've manifested numerous SPS that either been for relationship or they've been for like a reconnecting of a friendship um you know maybe it was an ex that I didn't want to date again but I just wanted to be friends or maybe they're not so bad the ones that you're doing out of heartbreak like my very first one that was really really difficult and the thing with that as well is that because you've got history with that person cuz we we all get attached to a specific person we make that person the be all and end all you know this is the person who's going to make me happy out of billions and billions of people on this planet it's just the one first of all that puts me in a scarcity mindset and I did I put myself in that scarcity mindset numerous times now can you have them back yes can you have them back conformed yes you can the problem is as well though we're still human at the end of the day and even though I've done it a few times and like I say I mean you know there's a couple of my um EX who hadd manifested back and still to this day I'm like best friends with Joseph's even met them as well like they've just been a continuous part of my life all those years even though i' had my desire it played out and the thing is the reason why Second Time Around yeah it was great however my desires still changed however they still weren't the perfect person however the way that they were still kept me very strong to my beliefs that I didn't want to get married and settled down and really it was because it was the type of person so yeah they might have been a better version however I was going in with the preconceptions of what I knew of them before you know I could never imagine my perfect person as someone who was a business owner for example with the way that he was and all the history that we'd had I could imagine a better version of him treating me be better but not someone who had the same aspirations as me or the same goals or I just didn't seem to go there so it's so much easier to start with a blank canvas where you're starting from new and I guess now after this manifestation I'm thinking to myself I do wonder I do realize now actually and you the same I think the limitations I don't think you realize how much you limit yourself when you go for a specific person it's only that person it's a little bit like manifesting money isn't it at the end of it we want to be financially wealthy but some people are so hellbent on but it must be a lottery win in which case I've suddenly given myself such a scarcity whereas there's an abundance of ways it could come to me and abundance of people abundance of currencies abundance of what do we care at the end of the day you know what we're chasing for is that feeling um but yeah I'm the same way this is why with my relationship I knew that yes I could manifest a better version of him I could manifest to fix my relationship before you know Joseph came in and I just it just wasn't first of all it wasn't my desire I didn't want to stay in that relationship so I didn't bother trying to fix it it I suppose the same for you as well it was just easier to start with a blank canvas there was too much history I'd been with that person for eight years so it would have been too much to rewrite um yeah just wasn't just wasn't worth it you know and there's a there's a lot really that plays into that and we could easily make a video a fulllength double part video just on that topic alone just because of what is involved with that but consider this with a specific person how many individuals here and you can write it in the comments below for both PE for for if you've ever manifested a specific person versus a perfect person in the comments just write go ahead and write down the how long it took you to do so or if it hasn't happened yet how long has the process been and I'll tell you right now there's been a variation of um effort involved in both cases but I'll tell you what the difference is when manifesting specific person there is an intensity of mental focus and strength um Constitution has to be strong your intention has to be strong your focus has to be strong your effort has to be strong your internal effort that it takes for you to maintain even for just a short time of Imagining the uh fulfilled end within the mind but in most cases when it comes to a specific person it's days weeks not days weeks or months the majority of of times it has taken myself to manifest a specific person and what I'm talking about is the effort involved the day after day of meticulously constructing the imaginal scenes the visualizing the inner conversations the night after night the combating of the thoughts the battling of the self-loathing and fears and doubts and insecurities the amount of effort involved stacked on top of each other day after day would take months and then I would see the fulfilled end if that or then it would appear in front of me and then I would lead it would lead me towards that end but in this case the effort that it took for me to deliberately the deliberate effort designed to manifest my person and the totality of work that I put in was about 20 minutes and that 20 minutes was me constructing a list that consisted of first the title was wife and the second part of it was the the list of all the criteria the physical criteria and the non-physical criteria the attributes of both her and I combined that took about 20 minutes to me to con for me to construct a list in firstperson perspective and then I closed that book that journal after that 20 minutes never looked at it again never thought of it again never felt it again I wrote the list and that was it boom and then 4 and 1/2 years later after completely in total toally forgetting about it with 100% of forgetfulness all of a sudden poof this one sends me a voice message and the rest was history within a matter of weeks I was in England and we've decided to be together and things have gone swimmingly perfectly that was and and which would you prefer the agonizing strain and pressure of attempting to change your entire mind in order to compel a person to love you who in my perspective now when I look back if they I won't get into that actually but but the the the the how I put myself in a better position by um what I'm what I'm getting at is how I used to put them on a pedestal and think that I wanted them but I wanted them differently but really what I was saying is I didn't want them I wanted someone else to meet this criteria right that's literally what you're saying if you're if you're saying I want them exactly as they are then well they're not with you so that's exactly how they are and in this case it was different in this case it was I want this person and I want this person with me meaning this perfect person and then poof there they are and they are with me I didn't have to change a thing so that that's kind of my point yeah it's just easier isn't it like I say no preconceptions no history not looking at them through the same lenses anymore which I mean with specific person you've known as well you you shift your state but as Joseph was saying it can take a bit of work so I wasn't about to do that with my last relationship I already decided I was going to go for New and think you the same as well it just wasn't even worth trying to change the situation with her make it more no way harmonious or see way you know no way in hell plus I think cuz you wrote that list and then you met her that's correct so now I'm thinking so she was obviously came to play a part in this manifestation so she had to be a certain way with this toxicity so that's why you had no desire to fix it as well because that wasn't part of the bridge of incidence for his which she she's touched a point that is 100% true I had no desire to fix that relationship I literally said I'm going to my internal judgment was I am going to ride this out to Bear witness to my creation until its end that was my internal dialogue literally but that in and of itself had to be how it was in order for me to manifest her because if I sat there and tried to meticulously change this ex into being the ideal person then this wouldn't have happened in the way that it did exactly and then same for me as well it wasn't part of my desire to fix my relationship with my ex so that had to unfold in a certain way for us to for this to be fulfilled so that was a really common question that we got we also that also leads into this sort of level of closeness that we have and thought transmission ah yes um that you get a lot in the community yeah people what we discussed this a lot isn't it cuz I asked you do you believe in thought transmission like I've never had it before where I have consciously sat there trying to transmit a thought to someone and get them to reflect it back or affirmed it affirmed it affirmed it just to have them reflect it um I don't believe that we're transmitting I always believe that we're reflecting that people are just reflecting you and I think because a few times you and I have said about how we're like the same person we're just so the same in so many ways um because of how how our list was look at this boy um well because we're so the same in many ways I I suppose it stands to reason that that is inclusive of a lot of our thoughts that we would have as where the same type of person have the same type of thoughts and so there were times that like I went to the shops and I got influenced by by Joseph's po what are you doing to the PO I just want I need his closeup isn't he so handsome I'm listening to you I'm listening to love him look at him he's just flopped on you this little bum in my face but yeah then I had this inkling to just go inside and purchase razors I didn't know why yeah he hadn't asked for any hadn't said that he was low on any I just purchased some and I think when I came home you had said something about you were thinking about so so check it out right essentially what happened was I was um yeah I was about out to shower and I was looking at what I had and I was um low on razors and I took out my phone to message her and I took out WhatsApp and I had the message typed in and the message said um can you pick me up some razors but then I decided in my mind that um and I was like ah you know what I'll just get it when I'm out that was my that was my thought and so it was on my phone and I had just you know put my phone aside and when she came back with the razors I still had the message typed in on my phone that I had sent was about to send her but never did but that's that's only one about that that you'd actually written it out there were so many other very weird things like I would be in a sleepy State maybe it was before bed or maybe you know would just hug you or something you know you just feel kind of tired and I would have this thought and a couple of times he's done it where he's responded and I was like I say that out loud or are you really oh my God yes you and me both would be in a drowsy sleepy State I would say something out loud that was half dreaming and it would answer her question that she had in her mind that she never spoke out loud what the hell is that so confusing cuz I literally thought she would say that out loud yeah or there was you once you and I I I asked something in my head and then you just went mhm and I was like why did you do that I said what were you answering I don't know yeah I don't know crazy this is with no intention these are very natural things that happen and I think that's just a reflection of our Core State which is like we we always say we're like one in the same person you know we're just so similar and we always get comments about how we even look alike and we Alik and things like that so I suppose it stands to reason that we would have quite similar yeah a lot of our state our state would match so even if you took away the part to think that I was transferring a thought to her or vice versa the way that we are so similar which by the way would come from either probably my list to say that we are perfectly compatible we are per we have perfect communication perfect this perfect that then that would um that would essentially mean that we would have similar thoughts as well so if you took away the magic thought of a transmitting thought However the fact that we share consciousness meaning you and me meaning you viewer me Athena also does lend to the theory that my thoughts are also equally instantly available to her as well and likely there's something happening behind the scenes that because we are so close not in physical I mean I think there would be some something that would happen when you physically spend so much time with someone but that we are so emotionally and spiritually connected on many different levels that there would be some availability of my thoughts to her and likewise in the opposite direction and even when we're not even aware like I'm answering a question that I didn't even know I'm answering just by going M I'm like why am I saying mm but it happened many times many times not just once asleep mhm and you're like what and even actually but other people get influenced by our thoughts and vice versa too haven't we had it where we thought something we thought about something we thought about doing something for example like uh setting up a community thing this Discord or coaching together I think we've been joking about doing that and then people started asking us a question when are you going to cach together which kind of leads us into the next question few people have asked about if we would do joints so yeah and that's many people have asked are you going to do jotha groupa coaching together so this is what we're doing though what what we are doing is I have set up and it should be finished by the time you've watched this video anyway but I've set up a patreon which essentially is linked into a Discord and in Discord we have a community it's Community for manifestors a community for manifestors that are serious if you are seasoned or attempting to be so you want to be involved with the community you want to read success stories chat with people live so that you can have this lifestyle of manifesting embedded into you so that you yourself can always have that Community to lean on I mean that is absolutely Paramount I I firmly believe in my life in my experience if I had a community of manifestors to lean on from the beginning which by the way there was nothing like that then I would have now I there's benefits to me having done this solo up until the point where I have so if I had something that was accurate that had results results driven that worked from people who knew what they were talking about who had the experience I it would have changed the course of my life I would have gotten to where I am now far long ago I wouldn't have suffered a lot of the suffer sufferings that I have suffered um like I said there's all pros and cons to that I'm grateful for the everything that I've been through but my God if I had that it would have changed everything just to know that I wasn't alone just to know that I you know people have gone there before so anyway point being is with the group group coaching type of stuff um we are do you want to mention anything else about that there's a few we've had a few ideas floating ideas floating around yeah I think until we get more solid with some of those but of course with this Discord I mean there's going to be different tiers to it depending on your level of interest to get involved but for a lot of you it is about just having that community and we have such a beautiful Community we're really blessed to have you guys on the journey with us so it it's just a little place for you all to hang out and then of course if you want to go further up into coaching and group coaching you know we're going to be involved with some of that aren't we we I don't know if we've discovered exactly how we're going I'll tell you this I'll tell you this generally oops I've hit the microphone before or around the time when our videos are scheduled and our premieres we will be there on the channels being uh speaking with everyone so that will in and of itself have a tinge of group coaching esque sort of Q&A style stuff that you can always stay in contact we want to have essentially our community not just start and end right before our video starts and right after our video premiere ends we want to have the community rolling so people can really get close to each other and get these ideas drilled into their skulls so you canect so you canect I know I am drastic you can so you can effectively get whatever you want the truth is is that you can anyone who says you can't or that need to reach some level of this listen nothing no condition can ever prevent you from manifesting anything it doesn't matter how happy you are I said this in the last video I think happy sad don't be Happ that yeah how much you hate yourself I made a video on Tik Tok recently about when I hate myself more than anything or anyone could possibly imagine is when I manifest the best that was such a ridiculous video but true but true right I didn't know what selflove was until I was I don't know until my channel was freaking at 70,000 right didn't matter I still manifested everything in my life I manifested women I manifested success I manifested money I manifested Health stuff true it is true same point being is we want this community there so that you don't get washed away by the Ridiculousness that is right that you've read somewhere or whatever right you can manifest whatever you want at any given time so my point being is this is what the community is going to be able to do is guide you in a way there's going to be great leadership there so people aren't going to get carried away with nonsense you can know exactly what you need to know you can read what you need to read you can see the success stories and you'll also be able to possibly get recruited into being a tester for some possible upand cominging technologies that you'll have the inside scoop the inside scoop of ice cream anyway we can't reveal too much yet not yet yet not so check it out though but with that right links in the description that's really important also make sure you go ahead and watch the other part of this video Athena Raven um subscribe to her Channel if you haven't and if you want to manifest in a way that is predictable if you want to stop hoping right no more hope manifesting subscribe to to this channel right hit the Bell icon so that you can stay informed Tuesdays Fridays those are my release dates and then I release shorts basically every other day of the week we are continuously going to be releasing excellent collaboration cont content we ourselves have something very unique to offer and that we have the inside scoop of ice cream as to how to manifest a specific person what people think how they act what actions they'll take the bridge of incidents what to do when there's insurmountable problems doesn't matter so stay tuned for everything to come we'll do some more q&as as well so if you got questions fre to send them along ask them also I I haven't mentioned this recently but your success stories have in the comments have been changing lives so if you have found Success Through This channel right write your success stories below help share with the newbies that this works you don't have to be happy you don't have to raise your vibration you don't have to believe anything just manifest by the book and you'll get whatever you want I want to raise my vibration I have a electric socket and a fork okay let's do it on that note thank you so much Joseph all here see you later bye bye for